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payroll tax, real estate tax, gas tax, on and on and on. the president raises the rates to 5%, most businesses work on 5% or 8%. how much more can they sustain? that reduces jobs, kills us. neil: that's your point; right, dave? >> exactly. you know, there's no 5% there. our goal is 2 #.5%, neil. our goal -- >> if we're lucky. neil: goal is 2.5% -- >> in a good economy. 2.5% net in a good economy in the business we do today. add 5% there -- >> you're done. >> 2.5% in the red, that's right. neil: if you hear mitt romney saying i'm going to essentially get off your back, going to roll back regulations. he was not specific which, make sure the government cools it on taxes, didn't say to the degree of what allowances and writeoffs and deductions he limits, were you either troubled by the fact it might be a wash? that you, for example, in your case for your catering business, you might see, butch, no tax savings at all, but you might have a lower rate, but can't deduct as much. >> that will kill us. without disposable income for me to spend or gr
payroll tax, real estate tax, gas tax, on and on and on. the president raises the rates to 5%, most businesses work on 5% or 8%. how much more can they sustain? that reduces jobs, kills us. neil: that's your point; right, dave? >> exactly. you know, there's no 5% there. our goal is 2 #.5%, neil. our goal -- >> if we're lucky. neil: goal is 2.5% -- >> in a good economy. 2.5% net in a good economy in the business we do today. add 5% there -- >> you're done. >> 2.5%...
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vo: why won't t romney level with us abt his tax plan which gives the wealthyhuge new tax breaks? because according to experts, he'd have to raise taxes on the middle class - or increase the deficit to pay ior it. if we can't trt t him here... how could we ever trust him here?
vo: why won't t romney level with us abt his tax plan which gives the wealthyhuge new tax breaks? because according to experts, he'd have to raise taxes on the middle class - or increase the deficit to pay ior it. if we can't trt t him here... how could we ever trust him here?
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our taxes are just too low. we need higher taxes on wealthier people. >> we need jobs. >> there's not going to be a shortage of capital, there's plenty of capital, it's just awash in capital and that's not the problem. >> our problem is not-- is not that taxes are too low, they're not. because if they were lower we'd get more jobs and more revenue, that's exactly what we need, ben, let me tell you something, you raise taxes we're going back-- >> absolutely. i couldn't agree with that more. and the deficit gets with bigger and the deficit gets bigger. >> raise taxes and-- >> we've got, okay, adam. can you break this? what do you think? which side are you on here, a fiscal cliff, how do we address this, higher taxes, lower taxes? >> we won't have a sequester for more than a few days. i can see it happening, but it won't last very long. what we have to have higher taxes. >> no, come on. >> and we know that, we will. >> all right i tell you what-- >> you know what, we'll have double dip recession. >> we may be going
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he has a tax cut. if you implemented it, what he says though, and has said from the beginning is that he will pay for that tax cut. when you include that sentence, he then says fairly scored, i have promised as a later date to pay for it. the question has been how are you going to pay for it? why should we believe you when no republican in 20 or 30 years has paid for a tax cut. i'm not sure it is wrong for romney to say that he is going to do a $5 trillion tax cut. the problem is he hasn't told us a word about how he is going to pay for it. the three things he wants to do, have the 20% across the board rate cut and have it paid for while protecting a bunch of tax cuts, they can't be done at once. something has to give and we don't know what it will be. >> he is wrong. because, if we give them the allowance that you are willing to give him, that will be the first time in the history of the discussion of tax policy in our government that anyone has been able to say i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut beca
he has a tax cut. if you implemented it, what he says though, and has said from the beginning is that he will pay for that tax cut. when you include that sentence, he then says fairly scored, i have promised as a later date to pay for it. the question has been how are you going to pay for it? why should we believe you when no republican in 20 or 30 years has paid for a tax cut. i'm not sure it is wrong for romney to say that he is going to do a $5 trillion tax cut. the problem is he hasn't told...
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after august 11th when governor romney decided to double down on the republican plan to fund tax cuts for millionaires and big oil companies, the generics began to spread. instead of being in a neutral environment, we were up one, two and the. then when todd akin in late august expressed those horrific thoughts and not what he said that bothered me but what he thought about some legitimacy to forms of rape, it widen even more then disclosures of the republican romping in the sea, the generics spread even more. independent voters were reminded how extreme the people are and that these people have priorities that would, in pack, end their medicare, in order to fun the tax cuts for millionaires. the more republican priorities are articulated the better we do. so in august, the nbc "wall street journal" generic had us up one. this week, we are up four in the generics. if they keep spreading if they get fife or six or more then we win back the house. direct correlation between the gen ir ache polling and the ability to win back the house and right now it is going in the right direction. >>
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what about this tax plan. is president obama obligated to supporters to point out to them that this is flawed? what do you think? >> i think the moderators are going e to ask governor romney about a lot of the things that you just talked about. i hope the moderator gives governor romney a chance to do what paul ryan said he didn't have time to do and that is explain how they pay for a $5 trillion tax cut. as you pointed out, ed, it is a time problem that is vexing in this budget. it's a math problem. they can't pay for it. if they can't pay for it, then they are going to raise taxes on the middle class. that's what the economic studies have shown. and look, i don't know anybody who thinks we're another tax cut for a millionaire away from a stronger middle class. that's just not how we have built our economy before and it's not how we're going to continue to make our country on the debate moderator to do itill ?e present be >> ihink the debate morato think the president will push back pticularly on some of thes
what about this tax plan. is president obama obligated to supporters to point out to them that this is flawed? what do you think? >> i think the moderators are going e to ask governor romney about a lot of the things that you just talked about. i hope the moderator gives governor romney a chance to do what paul ryan said he didn't have time to do and that is explain how they pay for a $5 trillion tax cut. as you pointed out, ed, it is a time problem that is vexing in this budget. it's a...
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he was very specific on the tax issue. >> he was specific in repudiating obama tax plan thought did he an excellent job of that. the president has been relying on a report that has been debunked left and right by people about how romney wants to raise taxes on the middle class in order to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy. he rebutted that very effectively i thought. but i would also like to see more details. >> paul: he gave a couple of details in regard to, for example, here is how you reduce deductions and exemptions, a $25,000 $50,000 limit that any one individual could use. that was specific offered by marty felled stein of harvard as a way to make tax reform work. >> and both of them embraced the simpson-bowles commission and the simpson-bowles commission put out three different tax rates and each rate you will have to do something with the deductions and exemptions, eliminate all of them or retain them and romney says i'm going to drop rates and put all of those deductions and exemptions on the table for negotiation. any serious person in politics knows that's the starting point
he was very specific on the tax issue. >> he was specific in repudiating obama tax plan thought did he an excellent job of that. the president has been relying on a report that has been debunked left and right by people about how romney wants to raise taxes on the middle class in order to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy. he rebutted that very effectively i thought. but i would also like to see more details. >> paul: he gave a couple of details in regard to, for example, here is how...
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i don't have a tax cut that's $4.8 trillion. i'm not going to cut taxes on the rich. i don't have a medicare voucher plan. i love teachers. and i think we need more of them. look, don't believe me. speaker gingrich was pretty eloquent running during the primaries and saying, mitt romney will say absolutely anything to get elected. and if somebody says absolutely anything to get elected you have to wonder what they'll say when they are president of the united states. >> so, speaker, you did say he was fundamentally dishonest after debating him in the primaries. this is not a new attack against romney policy. >> no. and i think that the challenge for the obama people is pretty simple. the president of the united states had 90 minutes. now, if he had done his homework and actually prepared, if he had actually studied romney, why didn't he say it? why didn't he take romney head on? first of all, the charges on the tax cuts are plain wrong, and i think virtually every analyst has said and even your deputy campaign manager said the charges made are wrong. but forgetting tha
i don't have a tax cut that's $4.8 trillion. i'm not going to cut taxes on the rich. i don't have a medicare voucher plan. i love teachers. and i think we need more of them. look, don't believe me. speaker gingrich was pretty eloquent running during the primaries and saying, mitt romney will say absolutely anything to get elected. and if somebody says absolutely anything to get elected you have to wonder what they'll say when they are president of the united states. >> so, speaker, you...
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and taxes. just after romney spent time giving the details on awful those being critical of very specific pro visions of don frank. and this is the president was not in denver. i thought he spent too much time shooting bass cats rather than prepping for this thing. we saw it. he offered up routine rogue talking point thing that's people were sitting there saying do you know what? this doesn't jive with what i've just seen happen with these two men on the stage. >> and rnc chair predicting the president would make excuses because he can't defined his record. he joins us from denver, good evening mr. chairman. tell me have you spoken to governor romney since the debate? >> i. i can tell you he was smiling and happy with how things went tonight. tonight was a historical night. and this is a sense that that is shocking. the performance but there is a problem for governor and drk-excuse me, the president, mitt romney was ready, and prepared. and he was ten yaishis and respectful. the president meande
and taxes. just after romney spent time giving the details on awful those being critical of very specific pro visions of don frank. and this is the president was not in denver. i thought he spent too much time shooting bass cats rather than prepping for this thing. we saw it. he offered up routine rogue talking point thing that's people were sitting there saying do you know what? this doesn't jive with what i've just seen happen with these two men on the stage. >> and rnc chair predicting...
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tax cut. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. my view is we ought to provide tax relief to people in the middle class but i'm not going to reduce the share of taxes paid by high income people. we have 23 million people out of work. or stop look for work in this country. >> eliot: here's how the obama campaign responded to some of the claims. with an ad released this afternoon that relied on fact checkers. >> mitt romney has not laid out specifics for how he would pay for his tax cut. he says it's by reducing deductions and closing loopholes but he hasn't said which or how many. so the verdict here the simply incomplete. >> eliot: by the way that 23 million unemployed claim is also incorrect. off by only eight million people. romney also attacked the president on the obama care issue. >> romney: cut $716 million from medicare to pay for it. i want to put the money back in medicare for our seniors. it puts in place an unelected board that's going to tell peopl
tax cut. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. my view is we ought to provide tax relief to people in the middle class but i'm not going to reduce the share of taxes paid by high income people. we have 23 million people out of work. or stop look for work in this country. >> eliot: here's how the obama campaign responded to some of the claims. with an ad released this afternoon that relied on fact checkers. >> mitt romney has not laid out specifics...
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. >> that's how we cut taxes for middle class families and small businesses. that's how we cut a trillion dollars of spending that wasn't advancing that cause. >> here is the president's closing statement. and you can see at any point in there, we'll get a sense of how many people were agreeing, how many people were disagreeing. if people thought the president was spinning. or dodging a point. and you can see, put them side by side and look at the president's closing statement or governor romney's closing statement. let's hear a little bit from the governor now. >> i will not cut our commitment to our military. i will keep america strong. and get america's middle class working again. >> while the governor was making those statements, 164 reactions came in to us at wjla.com/react that they agreed with what the governor was saying. and also tell you that about the same time, 144 reactions were disagreeing with what governor romney said. so he actually got more likes during his close than the president. he also got more disagreement than the president did during
. >> that's how we cut taxes for middle class families and small businesses. that's how we cut a trillion dollars of spending that wasn't advancing that cause. >> here is the president's closing statement. and you can see at any point in there, we'll get a sense of how many people were agreeing, how many people were disagreeing. if people thought the president was spinning. or dodging a point. and you can see, put them side by side and look at the president's closing statement or...
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now these politicians say unless we send more tax dollars to sacramento, they'll cut education again. here's a new approach. prop thirty-eight sends billions in new education dollars straight to our local schools, and guarantees the politicians can't touch it. thirty-eight will restore the education cuts from sacramento. so remember this number. thirty-eight. . >>> a campaign with a powerful message to fight breast cancer. 30 people took part in the immediate impact breast cancer walk. the idea began as a response to the controversy over the komen race for the cure. they decided to fund raise for local groups. they raised $93,000. >>> more than 30 million americans suffer from migraine headaches and a third of them standard treatment doesn't help and now one doctor is offering a new report. how his patients swear by it. >> reporter: she loves to spend time with her kids. on this day reading. >> he was sent to bed without eating anything. >> you wouldn't do that, would you? >> no. >>> for years it was no laughing matter. intinsely, painful chronic headaches -- intensely, pain full chro
now these politicians say unless we send more tax dollars to sacramento, they'll cut education again. here's a new approach. prop thirty-eight sends billions in new education dollars straight to our local schools, and guarantees the politicians can't touch it. thirty-eight will restore the education cuts from sacramento. so remember this number. thirty-eight. . >>> a campaign with a powerful message to fight breast cancer. 30 people took part in the immediate impact breast cancer walk....
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i live in new york i pay 50 percent in taxes. >> the rich are paying most of the taxes in the country. statistics come out that are amazing. >> it is like an amazing number. i was surprised to see it. they work hard they employ people. this is a very, very bad time. we are in a weak economy. this would be a bad time to raise taxes for any one whether it's the rich, the poor. now in all fairness less than 50 percent of the people in this country pay taxes anyway which is another amazing statistic. i wouldn't believe that statistic. the rich pay tremendous amounts of taxes. most of the taxes in the country and they really have to be at least -- rich people if they don't love their country they can go to other countries and pay a lot less tax. if you were in new york and the taxes were high you could move to florida or move here. with globalization and everything -- >> why don't you move to florida. we have golf courses in miami. >> i have a lot of great properties in florida. i just -- >> the minute you walk you hed florida. >> i love new york. i stick with new york. it's a great place.
i live in new york i pay 50 percent in taxes. >> the rich are paying most of the taxes in the country. statistics come out that are amazing. >> it is like an amazing number. i was surprised to see it. they work hard they employ people. this is a very, very bad time. we are in a weak economy. this would be a bad time to raise taxes for any one whether it's the rich, the poor. now in all fairness less than 50 percent of the people in this country pay taxes anyway which is another...
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i want to keep taxes down on small business so we can create jobs. this is about good jobs for the american people. >>neil: he swings, slams, scores, way too early to say if the swing states swinging back to the challenger but after last night, the critics say they probably stopped swinging away. larry said the race ain't over but he also is saying for the challenger it is an uphill fight. what do you make of last night and how this changes the dynamics? >> everyone, obviously, just about everyone, from right to left, says that romney won the debate. i gave you a full "a" and i give the president a "c" minus. there was a giant difference between their performance. everyone who was fair was impressed with how romney handled that from going to end. obama was stunned by how well romney was performing. he seemed almost to take a step back and tune out. >>neil: do you think he came in to it is on the clock, the president, to your point he didn't expect this, and he saw little risk in taking on mitt romney and even if romney did well it would not move the
i want to keep taxes down on small business so we can create jobs. this is about good jobs for the american people. >>neil: he swings, slams, scores, way too early to say if the swing states swinging back to the challenger but after last night, the critics say they probably stopped swinging away. larry said the race ain't over but he also is saying for the challenger it is an uphill fight. what do you make of last night and how this changes the dynamics? >> everyone, obviously, just...
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. >> at the debate he said he's not going to cut taxes for the wealthy. in the primary he said he's going to cut taxes for everyone. >> i'm going to lower rates across the board for all americans. isn't that a change? >> let me repeat what i said. >> lying, denying and alibiing. >> is that leadership? >> we can't debate the debate. >> the war continues. >> let's move on. >> we are awaiting a major foreign policy address. >> romney boiled down the president's foreign policy to one of hope. >> hope is not a strategy. >> but on actual foreign policy romney's specifics were rather thin. >> i'll support the libyan's people efforts to support a lasting government. >> how about iran? >> prevent them from acquiring nuclear weapons capability. >> that's the same. >> this is the same guy who couldn't even go to the olympics. >> he will say anything, he will do anything. >> his mention of russia. >> without question of number one geo political foe. >> there are two kinds of success, initial and ultimate. >> i still believe you in and i hope you still believe in me.
. >> at the debate he said he's not going to cut taxes for the wealthy. in the primary he said he's going to cut taxes for everyone. >> i'm going to lower rates across the board for all americans. isn't that a change? >> let me repeat what i said. >> lying, denying and alibiing. >> is that leadership? >> we can't debate the debate. >> the war continues. >> let's move on. >> we are awaiting a major foreign policy address. >> romney...
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the wealthy huge new tax breaks because according to experts he have to raise taxes on the middle class who are increased the deficit to pay for if we can't trust him here how could we ever trust him here. rather than acting like sportscasters this morning declaring mitt romney the winner in my opinion the media needs to be doing its job in fact checking but ultimately president obama did fail last night he failed at calling out mitt romney as an agent of the. president didn't mention romney's forty seven percent comments he didn't mention romney's tax dodging offshore tax havens he didn't mention romney's career harvesting businesses of bain and of the president can't make the argument that romney is only looking out for the one percent and in my opinion he's going to lose more on that prospect later and tonight is a daily take for now i want to turn things over to our politics panel our panel tonight andrew langer president is to for liberty richard follow the progressive strategist and brian darlene senior fellow at the heritage foundation thanks for all your years of joining me ever
the wealthy huge new tax breaks because according to experts he have to raise taxes on the middle class who are increased the deficit to pay for if we can't trust him here how could we ever trust him here. rather than acting like sportscasters this morning declaring mitt romney the winner in my opinion the media needs to be doing its job in fact checking but ultimately president obama did fail last night he failed at calling out mitt romney as an agent of the. president didn't mention romney's...
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the challenger, it was the budget and taxes. president obama spent the third most time talking about budget and taxes, about a minute less than governor romney. romney's number three issue was health care. big differences when you drill down. take a look at energy, president obama spent 19 secti9 seconds on energy. governor romney, 1:43 seconds. when asked a question about education, he pivoted to energy. 2:17. president obama devoted 4:15, almost twice as much. watching this very closely. anderson, back to you. >> john king locklooking closer at the flash poll numbers. you have numbers on the economy. >> they asked the question, who would better handle the economy? let me scroll down. clear in the poll, the overall verdict to governor romney who won the debate. who better to handle the economy, obama 43, romney 55. the defining question of the election. >> compared to where it was before? >> we have to be careful this is registered voters who watched the debate. in our most recent national poll, they were tied on that question.
the challenger, it was the budget and taxes. president obama spent the third most time talking about budget and taxes, about a minute less than governor romney. romney's number three issue was health care. big differences when you drill down. take a look at energy, president obama spent 19 secti9 seconds on energy. governor romney, 1:43 seconds. when asked a question about education, he pivoted to energy. 2:17. president obama devoted 4:15, almost twice as much. watching this very closely....
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tax rates. it's revenue neutral. >> it's not unless you take away the deductions. we're going to get to that. the first half. lowering the tax rates. does that cost $5 trillion? >> no. >> the master of the power point was having a hard time making a point. let's break down what paul ryan is actually saying here. romney and ryan will give $5 trillion in tax breaks to the wealthiest americans. subtract an unspecified amount of money of unnamed deductions. somehow you're going to get a revenue neutral tax plan. it's a plan so bogus not even a fox news host can understand it. >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the -- it would take me too long to go through the math. >> paul ryan, paul ryan, if you want to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, we're going to have to explain your plans to the american people. take all the time you want. especially here on "the ed show." you guys have been complaining about media fairness preponderance let's talk it over. today paul ryan told a radio
tax rates. it's revenue neutral. >> it's not unless you take away the deductions. we're going to get to that. the first half. lowering the tax rates. does that cost $5 trillion? >> no. >> the master of the power point was having a hard time making a point. let's break down what paul ryan is actually saying here. romney and ryan will give $5 trillion in tax breaks to the wealthiest americans. subtract an unspecified amount of money of unnamed deductions. somehow you're going to...
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and he opposes any new taxes. so on health care, he's kind of pulling up the ladder after him and his state. he's saying that he opposes universal health care at the federal level but he will not give states money they need to get it done at the state level. so under his plan there's no way to get universal health care done at all. but he doesn't really want you to know that. joining me now is jonathan gruber one of the folks who helped mitt romney design his health care law in massachusetts. it's great to see you. >> good to be here, ezra. >> you know these numbers for this plan, anything you want to fact check, correct or complicate here. >> no, you described it very well. i think what candidate romney is not owning up to is the fact that the federal government made our plan possible. they gave us the seed money, if you will, more than seed, more than half the money we needed to make it possible and the rest came from a tax that was already imposed on the state that mitt romney essentially rededicated to his eff
and he opposes any new taxes. so on health care, he's kind of pulling up the ladder after him and his state. he's saying that he opposes universal health care at the federal level but he will not give states money they need to get it done at the state level. so under his plan there's no way to get universal health care done at all. but he doesn't really want you to know that. joining me now is jonathan gruber one of the folks who helped mitt romney design his health care law in massachusetts....
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let's talk about the tax cuts. he signalled over the last couple of days, details about how they would pay for it they didn't put out details, they backed away from it. they are not being honest with the american people. you know what's worse? he got testy about it, being on defense and i think that came across to the american people. >> the president seemed to get testy at one point when he was interrupted by jim lehrer. will the president do more debate prep before the next debate, prepare differently. do you think he didn't take this seriously enough? >> we feel good about the president's performance here tonight. he wasn't speaking to the people in the room, the pundit class, but people at home. i think what people heard tonight was a plan forward, a detailed plan on how we'll rebuild the economy and strengthen the middle class. another guy that got testy, interrupted the moderator. i wondered if we needed a moderator since we had mitt romney. and someone doubling down on the very same policies that crashed the
let's talk about the tax cuts. he signalled over the last couple of days, details about how they would pay for it they didn't put out details, they backed away from it. they are not being honest with the american people. you know what's worse? he got testy about it, being on defense and i think that came across to the american people. >> the president seemed to get testy at one point when he was interrupted by jim lehrer. will the president do more debate prep before the next debate,...
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he said 30% tax cuts on corporate taxes and he has a series of other tax cuts he's promised that add up to $4.8 trillion. he cannot name one loophole that he would close. if you took away all the loopholes for upper-income americans, every single one of them, he would still be trillions of dollarss short. me has to sock it to the middle class or explode the deficit. > deficit. >> reporter: what you're saying it it is unrealistic-- >> i'm saying it's impossible, not unrealistic. >> when president obama said in 2008 i'm going to cut the deficit in half, i'm going to close guilt me, people-- gitmo, people said-- did not sigh he was not telling the truth. >> closing gitmo involved congress and he couldn't get them to do that. the math, people over $200,000, and you still have a trillions of dollars hole, and he hasn't named the deductions he would close. this is a shell game, john. whichever shell you pick up, the middle class loses. the economy will lose, and i think that this is going to catch up with him. >> schieffer: what did the president think of his performance? >> i think the pr
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income taxes eliminating the alternative minimum tax eliminating the estate tax and other tax reductions would reduce federal revenue four hundred eighty billion dollars in two thousand and fifteen and romney up until last night had never disputed that that that that that number has been around forever tax policy center study is flawed it is going to sell for has been running a twenty percent cut in taxes is a five trillion dollars in taxes over ten you know first of all that's not a tax increase in the middle class if you're cutting taxes i want to understand and i'm asserting it is all the president it what i wondering is why is romney disavowing it richard why is what i mean disavowing his own or the magistrate. i don't understand why he does the bowing his tax plan with this joseph who mitt romney is going to do anything to win and this is that what that shows he's going to depart from all of his conservative policies now he's the moderate mitt romney and the next the bit i guess is going to be conservative again with the put the quote i mean you know be the liberal neurontin exactly
income taxes eliminating the alternative minimum tax eliminating the estate tax and other tax reductions would reduce federal revenue four hundred eighty billion dollars in two thousand and fifteen and romney up until last night had never disputed that that that that that number has been around forever tax policy center study is flawed it is going to sell for has been running a twenty percent cut in taxes is a five trillion dollars in taxes over ten you know first of all that's not a tax...